Monday, July 25, 2011

Who is the Church for?



I love this video below. Get's me excited! But it makes me think...who is the Church for? Really. Can we draw this line in the sand? Is Church for the Christian or for the non-Christian? Do we spin our wheels making it so about programs, the latest fads, or transfer church growth and then wrap it up with words like "God is doing amazing things in our church?" Are we to be 100% about seeking and saving the lost or is that just supposed to be part of our programing or purpose statement strategy? 500 giving their lives for the first time in the last five months at Elevation Church...what do you do with that? I love the word Kingdom Multiplication...sounds a lot better than Kingdom Maintenance. Im interested in hearing your thoughts....if the church is not to be about seeking and saving that which is lost...what the heck are we to be about? Chime in Church.

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew (Click on Video below)

Sunday, July 10, 2011

"Love Wins" Publisher Responds to Book Reaction

"Love Wins" Publisher Responds to Book Reaction: "The publisher of Rob Bell's highly controversial book Love Wins has written a letter questioning the strong reactions against the book by conservative Christians." So I am interested in your thoughts on this publisher's response to the criticism that Rob Bell's book has received. I have a few issues with this publisher's reaction towards those who oppose Bell's theological views, but I will wait to see what others have to say first!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Tuesday, July 05, 2011

What Should the Church Teach About Alcohol?

First of all, I would have to say "What should the church teach about a good many other things..." Gossip, Lust, Lying, Adultery, Overeating...the list goes on. I am not saying we make this a soap box issue, however, I do see the lines blured when it comes to the teaching of what we do with alcohol as Christians! What do you see the Bible saying about this issue? What scripture do you use to justify or abstain from alcohol? Watch this video below with some heavy hitters giving their take on this topic...then leave a comment and let's discuss this!!!

Teaching Your Children about Alcohol from Harvest Bible Chapel on Vimeo.


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Monday, July 04, 2011

Are Altar Calls Even Biblical?



Once again I am posting on an article I recently came across and it made me think. It made me think because as a Pastor, I give "altar calls" on occassion. Also becuase I just finsihed up with Vacation Bible School and we opended up the altar for the kids each night and many kids made "first time" decisions for Christ...my daughter being one of them. So as I post this article, I am leaning more towards the side of still using "Altar Calls" but appreciate seeing how this practice can be percieved by many! What a great challenge for Pastors to continue to communicate clearly why we do what we do!! I would love to here what your thoughts and what your experience's have been with the "Altar Call!" Enjoy...

I’m sometimes asked by people why we don’t do “altar calls” at our services. Like the people who ask the question, the churches in my personal background pretty much all practiced “altar calls” at the conclusion of a sermon or service. I’ve seen them done in very poor fashion, and I’ve seen some pastors be really clear about the gospel, repentance, faith, and the fact that “coming forward” does not save. I date my own conversion to the preaching of Exodus 32, which concluded with an altar call.

So, why don’t we practice “altar calls”? I don’t think the pastor who practices an “invitation” at the end of a sermon is in sin, but he may not be acting wisely either. This list of reasons, compiled by Pastor Ryan Kelly of Desert Springs Church, is a pretty good summation of some of my thinking (HT: Z).

1. The altar call is simply and completely absent from the pages of the N.T.

2. The altar call is historically absent until the 19th century, and its use at that time (via Charles Finney) was directly based upon bad theology and a man-centered, manipulative methodology.

3. The altar call very easily confuses the physical act of “coming forward” with the spiritual act of “coming to Christ.” These two can happen simultaneously, but too often people believe that coming to Christ is going forward (and vice-versa).

4. The altar call can easily deceive people about the reality of their spiritual state and the biblical basis for assurance. The Bible never offers us assurance on the ground that we “went forward.”

5. The altar call partially replaces baptism as the means of public profession of faith.

6. The altar call can mislead us to think that salvation (or any official response to God’s Word) happens primarily on Sundays, only at the end of the service, and only “up front.”

7. The altar call can confuse people regarding “sacred” things and “sacred” places, as the name “altar call” suggests.

8. The altar call is not sensitive to our cautious and relational age where most people come to faith over a period of time and often with the interaction of a good friend.

9. The altar call is often seen as “the most important part of the service”, and this de-emphasizes the truly more important parts of corporate worship which God has prescribed (preaching, prayer, fellowship, singing).

10. God is glorified to powerfully bless the things He has prescribed (preaching, prayer, fellowship, singing), not the things we have invented. We should always be leery of adding to God’s prescriptions for His corporate worship.

Numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 10 of Ryan’s list are the most compelling reasons in my opinion. These would seem very serious objections for anyone who takes seriously the idea that our Christian lives and gatherings should conform to what the NT commands, models, and prohibits. Perhaps I would add an 11th: The “altar call” teaches the congregation to evaluate the “success” or “effectiveness” of the ministry on outward, visible actions and results.

Further, the need to be pastorally careful and sensitive with the souls of men needing to repent and believe couldn’t be more urgent. So, anything that obscures the reality of God the Holy Spirit’s work in conversion and the necessity of repentance and faith must be regarded–at best–a practice with potential to undermine the very work we’re giving our lives to.

Do people “respond” to the word of God at our services? They do. And we give them a number of ways they may follow up on what they’ve heard, from talking to an elder or Christian friend after the service, to scheduling an appointment during the week, to letting us know they would like us to visit with them, and so on. One thing I appreciate about our approach is that it allows us to meet, listen, question, encourage, teach and pray in a much more thorough way. By God’s grace we’re seeing people converted and profess their faith in baptism as the Spirit opens their hearts. We’re not perfect by any means. But I do hope we’re being faithful to the scripture’s commands, examples, and restrictions.

What do you think about Kelly’s list? Are you “for” or “against” and why? Would you add anything to or challenge anything on the list?
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Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Tuesday, June 28, 2011

Does Sunday School Have A Future?

(I found this article on the blod Red Letter Christians)
Sunday school. It was one of the main reasons I enjoyed church as a child. As a young adult, it sometimes still is. But there’s a conversation brewing: Does Sunday school have a future? I think so, though it may not involve Sunday or school.

Sunday school has and will continue to look different for churches across the country. Since its creation in 18th-century England, some congregations have followed Sunday school’s traditional form — to teach children the Bible, protecting them from becoming casualties of social sins.

Today a wide range of Sunday school practices exist for all ages, including Bible studies, small groups and social gatherings. No matter what Sunday school looks like, it most broadly includes applying Scripture to our lives. For it is through imaginatively considering and applying God’s Word that we begin to love each other, our neighbors and God — which is at the heart of spiritual formation.

So while some call this Sunday school, others call it “Christian education.” No matter the name, it’s spiritual formation. Since modernity’s original creation of Sunday school was premised on a cultural need — to provide school for children — it seems we must likewise reinterpret it in our postmodern, post-Christendom context.

In 21st-century America, we’re in great need of a deeper, broader understanding of the Gospel, an understanding that is countercultural and runs against societal hegemony. At its core, it seems we need a call to conversation — honest dialogue on the world’s biggest spiritual and moral issues. Let’s face it, these conversations might happen more often than just on Sundays or in scholastic settings. In fact, they already are.

**I would love to hear your thoughts on Sunday School...how has it played a role in your life? Is it outdated or underestimated?

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Monday, May 09, 2011

The Death of Osama Bin Laden




With so much coverage of this topic in the news these days, I wanted to post a wonderful response I recently read reagarding Osama's death and also give a chance to hear what you have to say...so below I have posted an article by Matt Slick, which brings up some great scripture references as we process these current events.

The death of Osama Bin Laden
by Matt Slick

On May 1st, 2011 U.S. forces killed Osama Bin Laden in a 40 minute attack upon a compound in Pakstan. This ends a ten year hunt for the world's worst terrorist who masterminded the attack on U.S. soil where the Twin Towers in New York were destroyed and 3000 people were killed. But, what should the Christian's attitude be about his death?

The Christian response should be two-fold. First, we should be sad that he has died and entered into his eternal condemnation. This judgment is indeed horrible, and as Christians we should be saddened for any unbeliever who has denied the true God as Bin Laden did in his Islamic beliefs. Second, we should rejoice that justice has been carried out.

On the one had God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.

•"For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies," declares the Lord God. "Therefore, repent and live," (Ezekiel 18:32).
•"Say to them, ‘As I live!’ declares the Lord God, ‘I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked . . ." (Ezekiel 33:11).
We clearly see that God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked. That is, it is not his desire that even the wicked die. Yet, on the other hand we find...

•"And it shall come about that as the Lord delighted over you to prosper you, and multiply you, so the Lord will delight over you to make you perish and destroy you. . ." (Deut. 28:63).

◦The word "delight" here is the word "soos" in Hebrew and it means to exult, rejoice, display joy.
•"If one man sins against another, God will mediate for him; but if a man sins against the Lord, who can intercede for him?" But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for the Lord desired to put them to death," (1 Sam. 2:25).

◦The word "desired" here is the same Hebrew word, "chaphets," used in Ezekiel 18:32 and 33:11 ("pleasure") above. It means "to delight in, take pleasure in, desire, be pleased with."
◦ Likewise, the word "chaphets" occurs in Isaiah 53:10 where it says, "But the Lord was pleased to crush Him, putting Him to grief."
In the above verses you can see that God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, yet he delighted in destroying wicked people. Is this a contradiction? No. Because God can be saddened by the death of the wicked but also delight in executing his righteous judgment upon them because it is in accordance with the holy Law (do not murder, etc.) which he himself has given us.

If God executes his righteous judgment upon the wicked, then we have an obligation to follow his lead, to carry out righteousness, to deal with the wicked, and to guard the safety of others. We need to do this carefully, with caution, and only after proper laws have been followed.

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Saturday, March 26, 2011

Pastor Fired for agreeing with Rob Bell

With our recent focus on Rob Bell here at this blog...I thought it would be interesting to post a current event peeking in at how a Pastor and a church have recently been impacted with the views advertised in Rob Bell's latest book on bookshelves now, entitled "Love Wins!" So as I was digging around some websites I frequent, I found this article and video clip
at www.churchleaders.com and thought it was worth looking at in light of all the Rob Bell controversy:
FOXNews reported that a United Methodist Church pastor in North Carolina was recently removed from his position because he posted to Facebook that he supported the view of hell described in Rob Bell's new controversial book, Love Wins. Pastor Chad Holtz said he was "shocked" by the decision to fire him, because the post was intended to engage his congregation in discussion, but it ended up angering them. Holtz said congregants complained he wasn't representing their views. Bell's book describes the traditional view of hell as a place of eternal torment "misguided and toxic," and Holtz's Facebook post detailed his personal journey toward "losing the idea of hell." Holtz called the congregation "good decent people ... who are simply feeling a little threatened by a pastor who is asking questions they don't want to ask right now." He admitted that he'd posted other notes on subjects such as gay marriage that had troubled the congregation before, but this recent one seemed to be "the last straw."

I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this one!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Wednesday, March 23, 2011

Atheist Debate Wednesday...

Get ready for the fourth part of the "Atheist Debate!" With Dan Barker and Todd Friel! The debate is getting good! It is good to see guys like Todd Friel who is "always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect..." 1 Peter 3:15 Whether you agree with Todd or not (speaking to believers in Christ) he has a defense...do you? I hope you are living your life in such a way that others would ask you about your Christian hope...but when they do, what will you say? Good time to develop that now instead of off the top of your head later!


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Monday, March 21, 2011

Great band: Sons & Daughters

I got the chance to see "Sons & Daughters" in Chicago last September at the STORY Chicago conference! They do an amazing job of worship and leading us all into the presence of Jesus Christ! I believe they are out of "Willow Creek?" Anyway, enjoy this video and use it as a personal time of worship with a cup of coffee before you start your busy day!

Come to Save Us from Sons & Daughters on Vimeo.



Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Friday, March 18, 2011

Weekly Witnessing Watchable

I love this clip. So encouraging! Even if you think this is weird or radical...remember as Francis Chan says...being weird and radical is normal in the Bible! So then the question is how normal are you?



Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Thursday, March 17, 2011

Jonathan David Helser | You're Never Giving Up

This is the most inspirational, moving, spontaneous song of passion I have ever heard! If a person could sing a sermon, this is what it would sound like! Thank God that he promised never to leave us...I need Him/desire Him more today than I did yesterday!


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Rob Bell...Seriously part 2

Here is an interview of Rob Bell concerning his views on Heaven & Hell in light of his new book "Love Wins."



Rob Bell obviously is confused about Hell and who goes there. He makes a statement in this interview, "What about the people who have never heard of Jesus?" Seriously Rob?? No one will go to hell because they haven't heard of Jesus Christ. The heathen will go to hell for murder, rape, adultery, lust, theft, lying. ect. Sin is not FAILING to HEAR the GOSPEL. Rather, sin is the transgression of the Law "Everyone who sins is breaking God's law, for all sin is contrary to the law of God." 1 John 3:4.

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Atheist Debate Wednesday

Hang on guys, there is a lot of content to process in this portion of the debate! Allow this to sharpen you if you are a believer in Christ as to how you would approach these topics of debate. If you are not a believer think about why you are not and allow some seeds to be planted. As you may have noticed the youtube videos of this debate were created by a non-believer.


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Who Am I? | LeadershipJournal.net



Our public personas often overshadow our true identity
John Ortberg | posted 3/14/2011

Who Am I? | LeadershipJournal.net

Great article by John Ortberg. So how do you deal with the many "you's" that you have the ability to portray? Most importantly what are your thoughts on John Calvin's statement: "it is impossible to know myself without coming to know God—and impossible to know God without coming to know myself."


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Saturday, March 12, 2011

Can Christians Get Tattoos?



So what are your thoughts? We have heard the answer to the question "Can Christians get tattoos?" But what about the question "Should Christians get tattoos? For those of you who have tattoos..."What made you decide to?" and for those of you who do not have a tattoo..."What keeps you from getting one?" Are there any limits to how many tattoos? Should a pastor get a tattoo? Should I get a tattoo? Well I tell you what if I get "50 comments" on this post I will think about getting a tattoo?

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Being scared of Hell does not save you!

The fear of hell by itself saves nobody. Use this video to help evaluate your preaching on hell, heaven, and the gospel.



Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Friday, March 11, 2011

Weekly Witnessing Watchable

Hey everyone, it's FRIDAY which means it's time for a weekly witnessing watchable...Sit back and watch this conversation take place and think about how you would respond regardless of which side of the fence you find yourself! Be encouraged my friends to be seed planters and convdersation starters! And remember don't be a jerk, just be Jesus!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Thursday, March 10, 2011

Atheist Debate Wednesday- part 2

Hey everyone I hope your ready for -part 2of the Atheist Debate. Remember for the next 6-7 weeks, every Wednesday, I will be posting portions of the most intense, challenging, edge of your seat atheist debate I have ever heard. Debating on the side of Christianity is Wretched Radio host "Todd Friel" and debating on the side of Atheism is once evangelist/Christian Dan Barker whose website can be found here. I warn you ahead of time, brace yourself. Allow this segment, along with the other segments of this debate, to prepare you for such a conversation in the future. I would pray that it stretches you and takes you outside of your comfort zone.


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Wednesday, March 09, 2011

A "Must Listen" video

What will matter most when you are breaths away from eternity? Enjoy!


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Friday, March 04, 2011

Radical by David Platt

Radical by David Platt from Taylor Robinson on Vimeo.


Go grab this book at your local Christian bookstore or order it online...be challenge and be changed! But don;t sit back as a "Christian" and do nothing!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

More thoughts on Rob Bell...

Recently I posted Rob Bell's "Love Wins" promo video. I shared with you that in the past I have struggled with what Rob Bell believes and teaches therefore, it is to no suprise to me that He would pull another rabit of bad theology out of his hat. Below I have provided a segment of Wretched Radio with Todd Friel. Sit back and listen to Todd and see if you agree or disagree... However, I would love to hear from some of you as to why you like Rob Bell, what is it that you agree with his proposed theology? Looking for some healthy conversation as iron sharpens iron!
Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Thursday, March 03, 2011

The best 5 minutes of your day...

Grab the family. Take 5 minutes to sit down and watch.
It's worth your time. Really worth it.

Kimyal New Testament launch in Indonesia from United Bible Societies on Vimeo.


Praise God that you and I have the Word of God in English. My prayer is that we have the same desire as these people to read it...and not just read it, but pass it on!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Wednesday, March 02, 2011

Atheist Debate Wednesday

Hey everyone! At least for the next 6-7 weeks, every Wednesday, I will be posting portions of the most intense, challenging, edge of your seat atheist debate I have ever heard. Debating on the side of Christianity is Wretched Radio host "Todd Friel" and debating on the side of Atheism is once evangelist/Christian Dan Barker whose website can be found here. I warn you ahead of time, brace yourself. Allow this segment, along with the other segments of this debate, to prepare you for such a conversation in the future. I would pray that it stretches you and takes you outside of your comfort zone.


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Tuesday, March 01, 2011

Moral Relativism


When someone says that morality is person to person relative and that their opinion is of no more value than the next person's opinion they have officially forfeited using words like "should" or "ought" as this assumes there is a way things "should" or "ought" to be. C.S. Lewis would point out that you can't call something crooked unless you what straight is.

The natural consequences of Ben's denial and suppression of God's moral law is futility and irrationally (Rom. 1:18,21). Something within him (Rom. 2:15) tells him that certain act are absolutely wrong, but he can't make sense of it outside of God, which ultimately puts him in a camp where a child molester's moral judgments are admittedly just as valuable as his own!- this video and commentary taken from www.livingwatersonthebox.blogspot.com
So it goes without saying that the idea/concept/belief of moral relativism is around every corner these days on an epidemic level. I will go even as far to say that moral relativism is even found in our churches, our youth groups, and our college age ministries. So what are your thoughts? How do you deal with moral relativism or how have you seen moral relativism displayed in your community? It's all to funny that those who believe in moral relativism don't believe in right or wrong until you steal their wallet! Ha!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Monday, February 28, 2011

What If Every Church Cared

As you will see in this video, mighty things can happen by small groups of committed people. The call has gone out, churches...GO into all the world! I think about this conccept just in my town of 80,000 in Decatur, Il...what would look different if the churches got out of their walls, got out of their comfort zones and got into peoples lives of those in need, of those who are hurt, of those... who if they died tonight would burn in hell for eternity...what if every church cared? How might things be different? Pray for change!


Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Playing to Your Strengths

Andy Stanley encourages leaders to do less and accomplish more. "At some point along the way you have to begin to play to your strengths and delegate your weaknesses as a leader," Stanley says.

Practical Idea: Share this video with your leadership team and ask them how well you are delegating tasks in your ministry?


posted originally at www.churchleaders.com

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Saturday, February 26, 2011

Rob Bell...Seriously?


Okay, if you have been a part of this blog for the last four years, or know me personally, I have never quite bought into the person or the teachings of "Rob Bell." Okay so I did buy one of his books "Drops like Stars" but I'm taking it off my shelf tomorrow and using it as a door stop. As Rob Bell is coming out with a new book "Love Wins" on March 29th,2011, I want to provide you a short article but a more compelling promo video that Rob Bell gives himself of the material covered in his new book and challenge you to see if what He is saying jives with what has already been said in God's Word. Click on the link Rob Bell...a Universalist? I'm open for discussion on what ROb Bell says as examined to what the Bible says about who goes to Heaven and Hell!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Thursday, February 10, 2011

Matt Chandler - Jesus Wants the Rose


Why is it that Jesus wants the rose and will take the rose but we are so inclined to do just the opposite with the messed up, jacked up, broken roses? Lord forgive us...Lord forgive me! Lord give me the courage and strength to be about the broken roses even when I don't want to, even when I don't agree or even when I may be ashamed to be associated with a mess of such roses. Give me your heart, your eyes, and your grace!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

Friday, February 04, 2011

A Repelling Pastor.



Okay so this should get some of us talking. What are your thoughts about how we do church sometimes? Or how we do church may be perceived? Are we more "show" than "go"? Didn't Jesus said "go" and make disciples, not "show" and make disciples. Interested in hearing your thoughts. Did this video tick you off or did you find yourself in total agreement? Remember that the views in the videos I post are not always ones I agree with, but instead used as a tool to get us together, talking, thinking, feeling, and sharpening our iron!

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew

"Zion & Babylon" Josh Garrels 2010

Bart Millard "I Stand Amazed" Live on Gospel Music Channel

Wednesday, February 02, 2011

When atheists backslide...


I love this video by the Way of the Master folks. So many times as Christians we say we don't believe in something and never explain the "why." We simply take a stance without being able to carry on a conversation or go into detail as to what makes us come to such a belief. This is what makes it look like we just got our "likes" and "dislikes" passed down from our mom's and dad's or worse yet from a "What I'm suppossed to believe as a Christian" starter box. All I am saying is conversations matter and "convinving" conversations matter even more! Sometimes we have to go into a season of "iron sharpening iron" so we can be able to have a defense and a foundation for the claims we make! Just think, your next conversation could quite possible make an athiest question everything they believe?

Way of the Pastor,
Joe Drew